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Titanic History

Saturday, December 21, 2024
1887 - 1st class passenger Mr Herbert Fuller Chaffee married Carrie Constance Toogood, who was also on the Titanic.

1958 - 1st class survivor Mrs Virginia Estelle Clark died at the age of 73.

1886 - 2nd class passenger Mr Jean-Noël Malachard was born.

1883 - 3rd class passenger Miss Jenny Lovisa Henriksson was born to Per Henrik Larsson and his wife in Härlingstorp, Axvall, Västergötland, Sweden.

1887 - Senior Assistant 4th. Engineer Mr Henry Ryland Dyer was born in Jhansi, India.

1996 - The glass dome explosion in James Cameron's movie "Titanic" was filmed and cost was $500,000. This was the last scene shot before the cast went on a 5 week break.

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History with Kelly: The Astors


Madeleine Astor

Name (at birth): Madeleine Force
Name (at death): Madeleine Astor
Date born: 1894
Date died: 1940

Madeleine married John Jacob Astor in 1911. There was one problem with this though. What was it? Madeleine was 18 at the time of marriage while Astor for 48, 30 years older! Because of this the couple decided to go on a very long honeymoon in Egypt and Paris.

In the spring of 1912, they decided to return to the USA on the Titanic's maiden voyage. They were first class passengers on the voyage and out of everyone they were the richest! Can you imagine? Their ticket number was PC 17757 and they paid 224 pounds 10s. and 6d. They stayed in cabins C-62-64.

Boarding with them at Cherbourg were Colonel Astor's manservant, Victor Robbins, Madeleine's maid, Rosalie Bidois, their pet Aireda, Kitty, and a private nurse, Carolina Louise Endres.

After the Titanic had the disastrous accident, Colonel Astor went to see what happened. He returned shortly and told Madeleine that they had hit an iceberg but the damage didn't appear serious.

Shortly after they were on the boat deck. Madeleine lent Leah Aks, a passenger, her shawl so that her son, Filly, could stay warm. Later, in the evening, the Astors went to the gymnasium to sit on the mechanical horses.

They both wore their lifebelts but Colonel Astor got his hands on another one and cut it up with a pen knife so that his wife could see what it was made of. Later still, they moved down to the A-deck. Madeleine boarded lifeboat 4, without her husband, accompanied by second Officer Charles Lightoller. Colonel Astor wasn't able to come with her. He died in the sinking.

Madeleine inherited 5 million dollars income from a trust fund and use of his homes on Fifth Avenue and in Newport. In August of 1912, Madeleine gave birth to the baby she was carrying while onboard the Titanic. It was a boy which she called John Jacob Astor after her deceased husband.

During the fiery World War One she married William K. Dick and lost all claim to the Astor fortune. She divorced William in 1933 in Reno, Nevada. Madeleine went on to marry prize-fighter, Enzo Fiermonte. The marriage ended when he died in 1938. She then took back the surname Dick. Madeleine died in Palm Beach, Florida in 1940. She was only 47 years of age.


Copal comments about Madeleine Astor:
"Madeleine Astor was in a scandalous marriage and faced the pressures with grace. Imagine the troubles a young woman of her age would face if Bill Gates chose her for a wife (and in a delicate condition no less). She was living her life as she wanted and didn't crumble under the gossip and attention. With the sinking she still dealt with the tragedy with strength and accepted her husband's judgment and sacrifice."


Little is known about Madeleine Astor before she married her millionaire husband in 1911. If anyone has any info I may have missed e-mail me at kelly_manelly@hotmail.com. Thanks.

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Colonel John Jacob Astor the fourth

Name: John Jacob Astor the fourth
Born: July 13th, 1864
Place: Rhinebeck, New York
Died: April 14, 1912

Colonel John Jacob Astor was born on July 13, 1864 in Rhinebeck, New York. He was the son of William Astor and great-grandson of John Jacob Astor who was a fur trader. Astor attended St. Paul's School, Concord and then Harvard University. After traveling abroad from 1888-1891, he returned to the USA to manage the family fortune. He owned homes at 840 Fifth Avenue, New York and another at Ferncliff, Rhinebeck, New York.

In 1894 he wrote a novel, A Journey to Other Worlds, which was a semi-scientific book. In 1898 he developed the bicycle brake. He also helped develop the turbine engine and invented a pneumatic road-improver. In 1897 Astor built the Astoria Hotel in New York which is part the Wardorf hotel, built by his cousin, William Waldorf Astor. It became known as the Waldorf-Astoria. He also had built 2 others, in 1905 the Hotel St. Regis and the Knickerbocker in 1906.

In 1898, Astor became Colonel-staff to General Levi P. Morton. At the time of the Spanish-American War, he was commissioned as a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. volunteers. He also let the U.S. government and provided the mountain battery of artillery to use against the Spanish.

On May 1st, 1891, Astor finally settled down and married Ava Willing, who was the daughter of Edward Shippen Willing of Philadelphia. They had 2 children, William Vincent Astor and Ava Alice Muriel Astor. Then, in 1909, Astor divorced Ava after 19 years of marriage. In 1911, 2 years later, Astor married eighteen-year-old, Madeleine Force. (This was interesting because she was a year younger than Astor's son, William.)

The next year is mentioned in detail on Madeleine's info, so I won't repeat it again and bore you. I will say that his badly crushed and spot-covered body was recovered on Monday, April 22 by the small ship, McKay-Bennett and they came to believe he was hit by a funnel. Here is the report they made:

"No. 124- Male- Estimated age 50 - Light hair and mustache."

"Clothing - Blue serge suit; blue handkerchief with 'A.V.'; belt with gold buckle; brown boots with red rubber soles; brown flannel shirt, 'J.J.A.' on back of collar."

"Effects- Gold watch; cuff links, gold with diamonds; diamond ring with three stones; 225 pounds in English notes; 2440 in notes; 5 pds in gold; 7s in silver; 5 ten franc pieces; gold pencil; pocketbook."

"First Class"     "Name - J.J. Astor"


Here's a little on other relatives:

His Ex-wife, Ava Lowle Willing
Born: September 15, 1868
Place: Philadelphia

Ava Lowle Willing married John Jacob Astor in 1890. They were married in her home town of Philadelphia. They had two children together, William Vincent Astor and Ava Alice Muriel. In 1909, after 19 years of marriage, the couple separated and then divorced the next year. Ava then went to live in England. In 1919, she married Lord Thomas Lister of Riddlesdale. He died on October 21, 1925. Ava never remarried. She didn't have any children in this marriage either. Ava continued to be known as Lady Riddlesdale until she died on June 9, 1958 in New York City. She left her son $25,000 and the rest of her $3,000,000 estate went to the four children of her daughter.

Astor's son: William Vincent Astor
William Vincent Astor was married three times but when he died on February 3, 1959, he was childless. His widow, Mary Brooke (Russell) Astor, he nicknamed her "Pookie", still lives in New York as far as I know. She would be in her late 90's.

Astor's daughter: Ava Alice Muriel Astor
Ava married 4 times in her lifetime. Her first husband Prince Serge Obolensky, a former Czarist officer, then she married Raimund Von Hofmannath, an Australian writer, her third husband was Phillip Harding, a British journalist, and then, her final husband was David
Pleydell-Bouverie, who was a New York architect. All of these marriages ended in divorce. Ava, died on July 19, 1956 of a stroke and was only 54 years old. She has 4 children and they would be, Ivan Obolensky, Sylvia Von Hofmannsthal (now Sylvia Guirey), Romana Von Hofmannsthal (now Romana McEwan), and Emily Harding. All of them still live in New York City.

Corey Ann's comments on J.J. Astor:
"Actually I really liked J.J. I thought he was a true first class gentleman. I wish that James Cameron would have kept the part on with him looking for his dog. It is so touching to me, because I am a dog lover and it just shows how dedicated he was to his family. He made sure his wife was safe on a boat, and that his dog had a shot at surviving... as well as every other dog on the ship. He was a real honorable man."





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